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Topic: know anything about humidifiers?
Posted By: pattirose
Subject: know anything about humidifiers?
Date Posted: January/25/2006 at 12:30pm
No messages posted last few years - I'll remedy that....

I have an old drum humidifier and the little plastic wheel won't turn, well it does sometimes, it moves an inch or so then stops - but the fan still works.
What should I do?
Take it apart and clean and spray it with WD40?
See if I can buy new plastic wheel - doubtful?

They don't make these anymore and I like it and can't take it in cause it's old and already been fixed/rewired by an amateur. (not me)
Any thoughts would be most welcomed.


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Posted By: donp
Date Posted: January/25/2006 at 1:24pm
most likely you need to take it apart and clean and lubricate it. humidifiers get a lot of calcium build up that needs to be removed, especially if it is a whole house type unit. it should clean up fairly easy being plastic. once cleaned, i recommend using a marine type grease. wd40 will wash away with water. marine grease will not. most auto parts stores sell marine grades of grease. it wont take alot, and you will have quite a bit left over, but its useful in other places such as outside door hinges, garage door roller wheels, locks/latches, etc. pretty much anything that moves and needs occasional greasing and is outdoors.

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Posted By: pattirose
Date Posted: January/25/2006 at 1:37pm
Can I use vasaline - no jokes please.

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Posted By: donp
Date Posted: January/25/2006 at 2:00pm
sure but it will wash off.

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Posted By: pattirose
Date Posted: January/25/2006 at 2:12pm
Okay I will go buy some. I take it I just grease anything that moves? fan - pulley etc?

And I know - unplug it first.

Thanks Don, I'll let you know if it worked or not.

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Posted By: donp
Date Posted: January/25/2006 at 2:31pm
dont grease the fan blades lol. only grease the moving parts where two things rub together, or shafts that turn in a hole or solid bearing.


oohh man the vaseline jokes are killing me.

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Posted By: pattirose
Date Posted: January/25/2006 at 2:37pm
Oh Christ, what's a solid bearing??

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Posted By: donp
Date Posted: January/25/2006 at 3:03pm
its one that does not spin. also called a bushing.

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Posted By: pattirose
Date Posted: January/25/2006 at 3:05pm
I know I'm beginning to sound really stupid here, but is that like a bolt?

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Posted By: donp
Date Posted: January/25/2006 at 3:25pm
no. the shaft turns inside of the bearing or bushing. the shaft is not threaded either.

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Posted By: pattirose
Date Posted: January/25/2006 at 4:26pm
Thanks Don, I don't understand this solid bearing thing but I'll just grease whatever moves, where it connects with something else.
Thanks for your info and patience.

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Posted By: donp
Date Posted: January/26/2006 at 2:08am
your welcome.

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Posted By: Jester
Date Posted: January/26/2006 at 5:10am
You can use a silicone based grease which can come in food grade to prevent harsh smell or other health concerns you may have.

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Posted By: donp
Date Posted: January/26/2006 at 5:45am
yes you can, only it washes away easy. i used to use that in and ice machine. had to reapply it several times a day to keep things from sticking because as it filled with water, it washed the silicone off. but since this is a humidifier, and its not going to be used for human consumption, i recommend the marine based grease.
anything will work really, i'm just looking at how many times you want to reapply the stuff. do it once and be done with it is my philosophy.

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Posted By: pattirose
Date Posted: January/26/2006 at 8:12am
Okay I got the thing apart and cleaned - there was 2-3 inches of dust over everything!
I also noticed that nothing really comes in contact with water (only the drum) so I'm gonna try WD40 because that's what I have, well vasaline too but it doesn't spray.
So next question I can turn it on and spray while the moving parts are moving - that way I can see what moves and what doesn't?

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Posted By: donp
Date Posted: January/26/2006 at 8:27am
just dont spray the electrical stuff while it is plugged in.

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Posted By: pattirose
Date Posted: January/26/2006 at 8:33am
It works - fan comes on by itself and turns the pulleys, just have to give it another spray and put back together.
Thanks again Don - appreciate it.


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Posted By: donp
Date Posted: January/26/2006 at 8:36am
your welcome.

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Posted By: pattirose
Date Posted: January/26/2006 at 9:30am
Actually it works really good - fan works on high which it hasn't done in months and it comes on right away and stays on. Still can't believe I fixed it myself!

I'll keep that marine grease in mind tho for the future.


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Posted By: Jester
Date Posted: January/27/2006 at 7:11am
Sorry to butt in, just thought Pattirose might not want to use something that might influence the health concerns of a humidifier. I use it where I work in HVAC systems. Great job with the DIY!!!

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Posted By: pattirose
Date Posted: January/27/2006 at 4:25pm
Stupid humidifier is slowing down and stopping again and the fan barely works on high, I just keep it on low 24 hours a day.
It worked like a charm yesterday.
Non of the parts I sprayed come in contact with water only the inside of the drum does.
Any ideas??

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"Where there is cake, there is hope. And there is always cake" - Life Expectancy


Posted By: donp
Date Posted: January/27/2006 at 4:37pm
you need a better lubricant, and the brushes in the electric motor may need to be cleaned, recut, or replaced depending on their condition. go to a radio shack store, or any electronics store that sells spray electrical cleaner, and clean the motor up real good. while unplugged of course. do not spray it with anything else! the armature, the placewhere the brushes ride on the center piece of the motor, should be gold colored and clean. its probably black and sorta gummy looking from years of use.

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Posted By: pattirose
Date Posted: January/27/2006 at 4:50pm
Thanks Don, that was fast.

Do I need to take the motor apart? Cause I didn't I just sprayed wherever I could squirt inside the thing behind the fan.
(sorry but I don't know what it's called)

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Posted By: pattirose
Date Posted: January/27/2006 at 5:08pm
Just reread your post and realized I do need to take motor apart....
Will go buy stuff tommorrow and try again. Thanks.

hey, how come I can't edit post?

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Posted By: pattirose
Date Posted: January/29/2006 at 2:42pm
Went to Radio Shack and they never heard of spray electrical cleaner.
They have compressed air and they have a contact spray cleaner and lubricant which is for the heads on stereos and tape decks.
Should I try another store? That doesn't sound right to me but I thought I'd ask?

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"Where there is cake, there is hope. And there is always cake" - Life Expectancy


Posted By: donp
Date Posted: January/29/2006 at 4:22pm
the contact cleaner should be the same stuff.

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Posted By: pattirose
Date Posted: January/29/2006 at 4:33pm
OK - I'll go pick it up. This stupid humidifier has been working for 24 hours now, I scraped more crude off the discs/knobs that the drum rotates on and so far so good. I'm gonna wait till it quits again to take apart the motor cause I'm kinda worried I might wreck it.
I'm not very mechanical at all - as if you couldn't tell!

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Posted By: donp
Date Posted: January/29/2006 at 4:51pm
well then dont take the motor apart. the brushes are spring loaded and when you pull it apart they pop out. if you dont know how to put an electric motor back together, its a real pain. unplug it and spray it down real good to get any grime out of the motor as best you can. then use some light oil on the ends of the motor shafts to lubricate it and put it back together.
but if its working fine, just leave it alone.

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Posted By: pattirose
Date Posted: January/29/2006 at 4:58pm
Thanks Don.

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"Where there is cake, there is hope. And there is always cake" - Life Expectancy


Posted By: pauliroy746
Date Posted: August/24/2012 at 12:10pm
Buy a hygrometer (some house barometers have them inbuilt) to evaluate stage of moisture, considering moisture parts are proportionate to heat range. If your shop has too low a moisture then a dish of water or a soaked fabric can solution this. As a beginning determine something like 50-60% comparative moisture seems to be ok.


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Posted By: mark01
Date Posted: October/28/2013 at 2:44am
Hey Guys well I think that  a humidifier is a family equipment that improves moisture in only one room or in the whole house.Medical ventilators also consist of humidifiers for improved individual convenience.Thanks!! 

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