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Topic: Half-Blood Prince (spoiler)
Posted By: Administrator
Subject: Half-Blood Prince (spoiler)
Date Posted: September/01/2005 at 5:21pm
Now that we know that Snape is a traitor, do you think
he's been playing for the Dark team all along?
Or perhaps he simply aligns himself with the strongest
power?

Another possibility is that the Unbreakable Vow he took
caught up with him. He promised to help Draco and finish
his task, if necessary. Maybe he had to take the vow to
retain trust of the Death Eaters, but was hoping he wouldn't have to act on it?

What do you think?

Andy



Replies:
Posted By: k_kid
Date Posted: September/01/2005 at 7:48pm
i think that snape was on the dark team all along and was trying to gain dumbledores trust ecasue he knew eventually that he would have to kill him. i dont know about snape in the next book but i know that ron hermione and harry go on a hunt for the remaining horcruxes and meet malfoy along the way somehow. but that my 2 cents.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: September/02/2005 at 3:29pm
I think he was dooping them both to be immune to both sides's fury. Since Snape made the vow he had to help and kill dumboldore, thus putting him in danger but since he is now under the strongest power and also knows harry's abilities inside out, and can read his mind, he is still safe.

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Posted By: Administrator
Date Posted: September/02/2005 at 4:27pm
Yeah, with Dumbledore gone, things are looking pretty gloomy. Do you think there's any chance he's not really
dead?

Voldemort may not be able to kill Harry directly, but
probably Death Eaters can. It's probably a matter
of pride for You-Know-Who to do it personally though, and
it could be his undoing.

Andy


Posted By: k_kid
Date Posted: September/07/2005 at 2:42pm
true...


Posted By: buffylover06
Date Posted: September/13/2005 at 7:24am
i also think snape was in on it the whole time. i was so shocked when i found out who died. i heard that one of the important characters was supposed to die, but i never thought it would be him.

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Posted By: Arethusa
Date Posted: September/13/2005 at 7:43am
Yes, that was a complete shock!
I've never liked Snape. Although there was one time I almost felt sorry for him. That was when Harry's dad was doing terrible things to him but, then again he may have deserved it.
I do hope that Harry gets him good in the end.

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Arethusa
Who's afraid of the Big Bad Wolf!


Posted By: Administrator
Date Posted: September/13/2005 at 11:36am
Yeah, I've felt sorry for Snape in that scene too. I was
even thinking that maybe they could mend the old bitterness, if Harry has shown compassion that moment.

There was similar episode in last book, when Malfoy was crying in a bathroom and I thought maybe Harry and Draco could mend ways. After all, Malfoy has seen where Voldemort's service is taking him, so it could have been a good time to desert. It didn't last long though, as they began to fight moments later.

Andy


Posted By: Arethusa
Date Posted: September/13/2005 at 4:58pm
Yeah, that would have been a good time for Harry to try to talk to Draco a bit differently. Maybe if Harry wasn't so bitter that might have happened.
That's another part of Harry that could have gotten him into Slytherin. His bitterness.

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Arethusa
Who's afraid of the Big Bad Wolf!


Posted By: Administrator
Date Posted: September/13/2005 at 8:11pm
Yeah, I agree, bitterness can take one far. Voldemort started by trying to avenge his mother, but then just kept on killing.

Andy


Posted By: buffylover06
Date Posted: September/15/2005 at 7:12am
how do you guys think the seventh book will play out?

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: September/15/2005 at 10:37am
Whoever read this one, will probably kill for the 7th one.


Posted By: k_kid
Date Posted: September/16/2005 at 9:44am
in the 7th book harry goes to look for the remaining horcruxes and of course ron and hermione go with him. actually i am not sure if hermione will go cuz she really cares about skool but ron i am all most positive will go with him. they will find them and then there will be a huge battle between harry snape and voldemort. in that battle i think one of two things will happen, 1. snape saves harry sumhow(probably by giving his life for him or sumthin like that) or 2. harry ends up killing both lord voldemort and snape.
for sum reason i dont think snape will die. i also believe that sumhow harry will come in contact with sirius and be all happy and that will be around the time he beats voldemort.


Posted By: Administrator
Date Posted: September/16/2005 at 11:23am
Snape sacrificing his life to save Harry?
That would be pretty cool, sort of like Vader's redemption
in Star Wars.

However, I don't think it's likely that Snape can come back from the Dark Side now that he's killed Dumbledore.

Andy


Posted By: Arethusa
Date Posted: September/16/2005 at 3:07pm
I agree with Andy.
That sounds far fetched to me.

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Arethusa
Who's afraid of the Big Bad Wolf!


Posted By: richardstessa
Date Posted: September/19/2005 at 3:21am
do you really think that snape is on the dark side or if he's just acting? i'm not sure if he's acting or not. if he's acting, then he's a really good actor.

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Posted By: k_kid
Date Posted: September/19/2005 at 11:27am
i have two things...
1)snape isnt acting if he killed dumbledor.
2)i think dumbledor made a horcrux and isnt dead and he will come back in the 7th to finally help harry defeat voldemort.


Posted By: Administrator
Date Posted: September/19/2005 at 8:49pm
Not sure if Dumbledore would made a horcrux, since it's vert dark magic, requiring to give up part of your soul.

But I do hope that he survived, somehow, someway.
Or maybe he'll guide Harry Potter in spirit form, like Obi Wan :)

Andy


Posted By: k_kid
Date Posted: September/20/2005 at 1:36pm
i have a feeling he survived. he might have made a horcrux. idk tho.


Posted By: buffylover06
Date Posted: September/21/2005 at 3:03am
i have a feeling that harry will probably have flashbacks of dumbledore. i don't think dumbledore's alive.

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Posted By: Arethusa
Date Posted: September/21/2005 at 4:38pm
I don't either. Just because he is in his picture now, sleeping.

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Arethusa
Who's afraid of the Big Bad Wolf!


Posted By: Administrator
Date Posted: September/22/2005 at 4:35am
Oh yeah, that's a good point. You can't fool a picture, can you? Though, I guess, Dumbledore could put a charm on a picture, to make everybody believe he's dead, so Voldemort would be put off guard. Remember, Sherlock Holmes did similar thing after facing Moriarty.

Besides, Peter Pettigrew kept wizarding world believe he was dead for years.

Another rule that some magic books/movies follow is - the stronger wizards are able to maintain illusions that weaker wizards cannot break. And since Dumbledore is the best, he could, in theory, fool everyone.

Seems like the rule of illusions is even more stretched in Harry Potter - for example, fake Moody had everyone fooled for a year, even though some of the teachers were probably more powerful wizards.

Andy


Posted By: Arethusa
Date Posted: September/22/2005 at 11:29am
This is true. I'd have to agree there. Too bad the next book is going to be awhile before we get to find out what really happens.
Until then I love this speculating what is going to happen.
It builds the suspense.

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Arethusa
Who's afraid of the Big Bad Wolf!


Posted By: k_kid
Date Posted: September/22/2005 at 12:09pm
even though the real moody wasnt as "powerful" as the other teachers as you metioned, he was using a very strong potion for that so he was able to fool everyone.


Posted By: richardstessa
Date Posted: September/23/2005 at 3:03am
in the last three books, at least one character has died. who do you think will die in the next book?

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Posted By: Arethusa
Date Posted: September/23/2005 at 4:39am
I'm not sure. I just hope that it is not one of the people that I like. I think the next one to go should be from the other side. Enough of killing off the good guys.

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Arethusa
Who's afraid of the Big Bad Wolf!


Posted By: jen the oddfrog
Date Posted: September/23/2005 at 5:52am
Since it is raining out my three year old is playing Harry Potter on our playstation right now...he's pretty good but needs help flying the broom..Ive read all the books except for Half Blood Prince and the one before that one...I was so into them for awhile...I really should pick up the last two and see whats going on...I tell ya if I were their age Id have a big crush on the boy who played Ron in the movie, I think he's adorable.
Poor Dumbledore

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Life can be as bitter as dragon tears. But whether dragon tears are bitter or sweet depends entirely on how each man perceives the taste.


Posted By: richardstessa
Date Posted: September/23/2005 at 7:17am
i think that ron and hermione should get togther. that would be a really interesting romance. what do you guys think?

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Posted By: jen the oddfrog
Date Posted: September/23/2005 at 7:33am
I thought she would take the few moments shared between ron and hermoine somewhere...they even put it in the movies...a few awkward moments shared here and there...definetly a cute twist to things.

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Life can be as bitter as dragon tears. But whether dragon tears are bitter or sweet depends entirely on how each man perceives the taste.


Posted By: Arethusa
Date Posted: September/23/2005 at 5:39pm
I also think that the kid that plays Ron is adorable.
I think that sometime soon that Ron and Hermoine will get together.

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Arethusa
Who's afraid of the Big Bad Wolf!


Posted By: Administrator
Date Posted: September/24/2005 at 2:01am
I thought Ron and Hermione already got together, at the end of Half-Blood Prince book? Looks to me that they are together for good.

Now, Harry and Ginny are another story. I feel bad for her, she's been waiting for him for so long, and now he's gonna leave her again, to go save the world.

Andy


Posted By: k_kid
Date Posted: September/24/2005 at 9:26am
I think voldemort, ginny, ron, or snape, or even malfoy will die in the next one.


Posted By: richardstessa
Date Posted: September/26/2005 at 3:12am
i hope hermoine doesn't die. i really like here.

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Posted By: k_kid
Date Posted: September/26/2005 at 3:40pm
i dont think she will but i can see her giving her life for harry.


Posted By: richardstessa
Date Posted: September/27/2005 at 4:10am
i can see that too, but i hope it doesn't happen.

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Posted By: jen the oddfrog
Date Posted: September/28/2005 at 9:21am
I would be crushed if she killed off hermoine...but would be that way with any of them...havent read Half Blood Prince but will still be sad when i get to the Dumbledore part..Im excited for the new movie..the comercial looks good.

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Life can be as bitter as dragon tears. But whether dragon tears are bitter or sweet depends entirely on how each man perceives the taste.


Posted By: richardstessa
Date Posted: September/30/2005 at 3:45am
i haven't seen the commercial for the new one, but i'm sure i will see it no matter what. i liked the third movie the best so far.

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Posted By: Arethusa
Date Posted: September/30/2005 at 12:27pm
I haven't seen the commercial either. I'll have to watch out for it.

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Arethusa
Who's afraid of the Big Bad Wolf!


Posted By: dusty151617
Date Posted: September/30/2005 at 5:48pm
I've seen it, looks good.

Jen, you know about Dumbledore and you haven't read the book. That would make me mad.

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"This here, now--this is just an intermission between act one and act two." - Odd Thomas


Posted By: richardstessa
Date Posted: October/03/2005 at 3:02am
i saw the commercial for the new one last night and it looks awesome. i can't wait to see it.

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Posted By: jen the oddfrog
Date Posted: October/03/2005 at 4:10am
I have always read the books before the movie but it looks like Im probably not this time im not sure why but I havent bought the book yet...have alot on my plate right now.

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Life can be as bitter as dragon tears. But whether dragon tears are bitter or sweet depends entirely on how each man perceives the taste.


Posted By: richardstessa
Date Posted: October/03/2005 at 7:23am
i read the book a while ago and i don't remember it that well.

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Posted By: Arethusa
Date Posted: October/03/2005 at 3:24pm
I saw the commercial last night and they do have the part in it where Malfoy gets turned into a ferret. I can't wait to see this movie.

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Arethusa
Who's afraid of the Big Bad Wolf!


Posted By: richardstessa
Date Posted: October/04/2005 at 3:11am
i don't remember that part in the book, but when i saw that, i laughed. it was so funny.

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Posted By: Administrator
Date Posted: October/04/2005 at 7:05pm
There are several trailers at http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0330373/trailers

I am surprised I haven't seen it in the theaters yet, I got to the movies almost every week.

As for trailer itself, it looked awesome! Cho Chang is cute, Ron looks kind of rough, Moody was cool to see (although his eye looked a bit mechanical, I thought it would be more life-like).

I wonder if they are going to show the Quidditch championship and the original appearance of Death Eaters, it should be quite a sight!

Now all I have to do is coerce my brother to seeing the first 3 films, so we can see the 4th together :)

Andy


Posted By: richardstessa
Date Posted: October/06/2005 at 3:25am
my favorite book would defenitly be the fifth one, but my favorite movie so far is the thrid one.

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Posted By: Arethusa
Date Posted: October/07/2005 at 5:12am
The third movie I think is by far the better one also, except for Dumbledoor. I just couldn't stand the guy they got to play him.
I even noticed that everyone called him Headmaster most of the time instead of Dumbledoor. That had never been done before, even when they were talking to him face to face.
The best part of the third movie was when Hermynonie(sp) decked Malfoy! Loved that!

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Arethusa
Who's afraid of the Big Bad Wolf!


Posted By: richardstessa
Date Posted: October/12/2005 at 4:03am
that was really good. i'm glad she did that. he totally deserved it.

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Posted By: christophersnow
Date Posted: October/27/2005 at 4:49pm
Snape is good(a jerk, but good). All the reasoning behind my theory would take to long to post, so I'll post more when I have more time.

My favorite is the fifth one as well. Perfect book. Dumbledore taking on five ministry people at once. GREAT!

I can't get into the movies anymore after the third one ruined the third book for me, but I'll watch the fourth because of a deal I made with my friend.

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"It had to be said. The world is perishing from an orgy of self-sacrificing." - Howard Roark
Dean Koontz= Always working!


Posted By: richardstessa
Date Posted: October/31/2005 at 3:19am
what was the deal?

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Posted By: christophersnow
Date Posted: October/31/2005 at 6:49pm
I told him I would watch the movie (he is a big movie freak) if he read at least one of the books. I never thought he would actually read a single word of the books, but he read every single one, and at quite a fast pace for how it usually takes him to read books that he claims are the best. Like Crichton books, which take him months to complete, and he finished all of these within about a month and a half. He says Goblet is probably his favorite, but he loves Snape so much that Half-Blood may also be his favorite, but he thinks OotP is too long, but still good.

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"It had to be said. The world is perishing from an orgy of self-sacrificing." - Howard Roark
Dean Koontz= Always working!


Posted By: richardstessa
Date Posted: November/02/2005 at 3:32am
i thought it was long too, but it was worth it. i cried when harry's godfather died. it was so sad.

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Posted By: christophersnow
Date Posted: November/03/2005 at 9:42am
Order could have been longer in my opinion.

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"It had to be said. The world is perishing from an orgy of self-sacrificing." - Howard Roark
Dean Koontz= Always working!


Posted By: richardstessa
Date Posted: November/04/2005 at 3:00am
what else would you have included if you had written the order to make it longer?

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Posted By: jen the oddfrog
Date Posted: November/04/2005 at 5:19am
The Narnia movie looks like a good holiday movie...has anyone else seen the promo...my son and I have read some of those books....

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Life can be as bitter as dragon tears. But whether dragon tears are bitter or sweet depends entirely on how each man perceives the taste.


Posted By: richardstessa
Date Posted: November/07/2005 at 3:22am
i saw the preview for the movie a while ago. i thought it was kind of childish, but then again i'm 18 so that's definitly not something i would want to see.

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Posted By: christophersnow
Date Posted: November/09/2005 at 11:27am
Originally posted by richardstessa richardstessa wrote:

what else would you have included if you had written the order to make it longer?


If I had written it, I would have included more scenes with Luna, and more of the Creevey brothers, and a lot of the other characters that didn't get enough time. More DA lessons in depth. But then again, if I had written it, it would have sold one copy!

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"It had to be said. The world is perishing from an orgy of self-sacrificing." - Howard Roark
Dean Koontz= Always working!


Posted By: richardstessa
Date Posted: November/14/2005 at 5:04am
why do you say that?

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Posted By: StormyEvenstar
Date Posted: November/15/2005 at 12:04pm
Originally posted by christophersnow christophersnow wrote:

Snape is good(a jerk, but good). All the reasoning behind my theory would take to long to post, so I'll post more when I have more time.


My thoughts exactly! I still think Snape is good. I really wanted him to be bad because he is so mean to Harry but I really do believe that he is good. There are a lot of clues in the book that point to him being good.

I loooove Harry/Ginny. I just wish there could have been a bit more of them together in the 6th book. But I knew as soon as Harry was in Potions class and he smelled in the love potion "a flowery smell that reminded him of the Burrow" that he and Ginny would be getting together! I've been waiting for them to get together since book 2. Cho is a biyatch.

I'm not looking too forward to seeing Harry Potter 4 in theatres. The three movies were really disappointing to me, but I will continue to see them because I am too curious. I saw an HBO first look about GoF yesterday, and it perturbed me a little bit to see the students from Durmstrang and Beauxbatons dancing in the Great Hall. I hope there isn't going to be too much of that.


Posted By: christophersnow
Date Posted: November/15/2005 at 8:49pm
I knew about Harry and Ginny too as soon as the potion thing.

The main reason Snape is good: Dumbledore put Snape in the DADA teacher position even though he knew it was cursed. He said he knew to Harry that it was cursed by Voldemort. Why would he put him in that position if he knew Snape would have to leave by the end of the year. Snape had to kill DD or have Malfoy killed alone with himself, and DD thought their lives were more important. As long as DD is around, Harry would depend on him and not want to fight Voldemort himself.

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"It had to be said. The world is perishing from an orgy of self-sacrificing." - Howard Roark
Dean Koontz= Always working!


Posted By: richardstessa
Date Posted: November/16/2005 at 3:10am
what do you think ar some of the clues that snape is good?

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Posted By: StormyEvenstar
Date Posted: November/16/2005 at 6:21am
I'll have to go dig up my notebook because as I reread HBP I wrote a bunch of things down that I thought pointed to Snape being good. But one small thing in particular that I remmeber is that when Harry is forcing Dumbledore to drink that potion in the cave, it says something like, "Hating himself, repulsed by what he was doing, Harry tipped the goblet towards Dumbledore's mouth." And then on the tower, right before Snape kills Dumbledore, she describes him as having, "hatred and revulsion etched into every line of his face." A lot of people tell me that I am looking too far into it, but I think it is a bit too coincedental that JK would use the same two adjectives. She knowws people are going to be analyzing every word, and I think she put that in there on purpose. I think maybe Snape was feeling the same way Harry was.


Posted By: richardstessa
Date Posted: November/16/2005 at 6:30am
i can't wait for the next book to come out. i want to see the movie, but i don't know anyone that will see it with me.

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Posted By: christophersnow
Date Posted: November/16/2005 at 10:48am
Nicely put Stormy, I also noticed that and thought that.

More proof is that DD and Snape were arguing in the forest. Hagrid told Harry he didn't know what they were talking about, but I have some ideas. I think that Snape was arguing that he didn't want to kill DD when the time came, that there had to be another way, but DD knew it was the only way.

At the beginning of the novel it makes it seem that Snape doesn't know about the plan between Draco and Voldemort, which would later seem a narrative affect to make it more surprising that Snape is bad. I believe he really didn't know and went in blindly to prove his loyalty to Voldemort.

More to come!

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"It had to be said. The world is perishing from an orgy of self-sacrificing." - Howard Roark
Dean Koontz= Always working!


Posted By: demon_kid
Date Posted: November/16/2005 at 1:17pm
LALALALAL SNAPE KILLED DUMBLEDOR.....DUMBLEDORE SNAPE KILLS DUMDERE DUMBLE DORE "


Posted By: christophersnow
Date Posted: November/17/2005 at 6:38pm
Dumbledore would never, ever plead for his life. When he said "Severus." he was telling Severus to go on with the plan, because he was afraid the he wouldn't.

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"It had to be said. The world is perishing from an orgy of self-sacrificing." - Howard Roark
Dean Koontz= Always working!


Posted By: StormyEvenstar
Date Posted: November/20/2005 at 7:24am
Chris, what do you think the 7th Horcrux is? If Nagini really is one, then we've got the cup, the diary, the locket, the ring, Nagini, Voldemort, and I think the last one might be Harry himself, but I hope not. I also think that maybe the last will be a tiara of Rowena Ravenclaw's. JKR mentioned a tiara couple times in this book, once in the RoR and at the end when mrs. Weasley offers Fleur a family tiara. I also think that Aberforth is going to play a big part in book 7.


Posted By: christophersnow
Date Posted: November/20/2005 at 1:55pm
I don't think it is Harry for one main reason. If it was Harry, than Voldemort would have already made it so that it wasn't because he would have taken the soul back out of Harry to resurrect himself in the fourth book. Besides, remember he couldn't touch him because of his mothers spell, so I don't think his soul could either. I don't think he would make a horcrux a living thing unless it was destined to live long (eg. Nagini) or make it his sworn enemy. He wants to kill Harry, and if he does that then part of his soul would die, which would be stupid.

At least this is what I think. I don't know how everything really works.

I haven't really thought too much about the other Horcrux, so I'll be back to you on that.

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"It had to be said. The world is perishing from an orgy of self-sacrificing." - Howard Roark
Dean Koontz= Always working!


Posted By: StormyEvenstar
Date Posted: November/20/2005 at 6:22pm
Yeah, but I don't think it's possible to just take your soul back out. I think if it is in Harry then he didn't mean to. I'm not saying I honestly believe this 100% but I just like making up theories. My theory is, on the night that he killed Harry, he was intending to make another horcrux. Killing Harry, who was foreseen to be his equal, would be a big accomplishment for him and what better way to celebrate than to make a horcrux? He probably had some item of significance there that he planned to put his soul into. But Voldemort's plan failed and backfired; instead of his soul going into an object it went into Harry. And maybe he's figured this out after GoF and that's why now he makes strict order for no one to harm Harry. Because his soul is in him, in his scar, and he doesn't know what to do. This may be why Harry has some similarities to Voldemort, like the ability of Parseltongue, and why the hat wanted to put him in Slytherin. Anyway, I really hope this isn't the case because how would Harry get the horcrux out of him? Would he have to die?

I'm leaning more towards the idea that perhaps the last horcrux was a belonging of Ravenclaw's, like a tiara.

I really want to know what the connection is between Grindewald and Voldemort. JKR answer was kind of strange when the Mugglenet/Leaky Cauldron people asked her that question.


Posted By: christophersnow
Date Posted: November/20/2005 at 7:40pm
I think she meant there was no connection and that Grindenwald was Hitler. So the connection is that they are both racist.

My friend thinks the same thing, but I just can't see a living thing being a horcrux. Thats my theory.

I don't really want Harry to die, but if he does I don't want it to be because he is a horcrux. I always imagined Snape being there at the final battle and after Harry defeats Voldemort Snape says to Harry, "Ten points from Gryffindor for killing another wizard." and then a smile comes over his face and he hugs Harry.

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"It had to be said. The world is perishing from an orgy of self-sacrificing." - Howard Roark
Dean Koontz= Always working!


Posted By: dusty151617
Date Posted: November/20/2005 at 8:06pm
and then Harry pulls out his wand and kills Snape. I hate him.

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"This here, now--this is just an intermission between act one and act two." - Odd Thomas


Posted By: christophersnow
Date Posted: November/21/2005 at 10:44am
Yeah, he's a bastard.

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"It had to be said. The world is perishing from an orgy of self-sacrificing." - Howard Roark
Dean Koontz= Always working!


Posted By: StormyEvenstar
Date Posted: November/21/2005 at 6:18pm
ES:Itís the one about Grindelwald, which Iím sure youíve been gearing up for us to ask.
JKR: Uh huh.
ES: Clearly -
JKR: Come on then, remind me. Is he dead?
ES: Yeah, is he dead?
JKR: Yeah, he is.
ES: Is he important?
JKR: [regretful] Ohhh...
ES: You donít have to answer but can you give us some backstory on him?
JKR: I'm going to tell you as much as I told someone earlier who asked me. You know Owen who won the [UK television] competition to interview me? He asked about Grindelwald [pronounced "Grindelvald" HMMÖ]. He said, ďIs it coincidence that he died in 1945,Ē and I said no. It amuses me to make allusions to things that were happening in the Muggle world, so my feeling would be that while there's a global Muggle war going on, there's also a global wizarding war going on.
ES: Does he have any connection to --
JKR: I have no comment to make on that subject.

I think there might be a bit more to Grindelwald, but it may just be JKR wanting us to think that. You know, it would have been really helpful if Dumbledore would have shown Harry the memory of him defeating Grindelwald. I know it was probably different than what Harry had to do, but at least it would have prepared him a little bit. I was surprised at the end when Harry was trying to battle Snape at how unprepared he was. Maybe Hermione can help him with Occlumency or something. Someone needs to give him a little bit of training, maybe Aberforth.


Onto a different subject, I find it interesting how Trelawney keeps being right. I don't think she even knows what she predicted in book 6.


Posted By: christophersnow
Date Posted: November/22/2005 at 5:51pm
Fred and George predict things good as well.

Hitler died around 1945, and the war she is talking about is WWII because she said allusions to Muggle wars around that time. Maybe he was a hero of Voldemorts and wanted to follow in his footsteps. Grindelwald was killing muggles because he hated them just like Voldemort (e.g. killing 6 million people). And the reason Hitler was so liked by everyone is because he was a wizard and used spells to control them. Voldemorts admiration:)

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Posted By: StormyEvenstar
Date Posted: November/23/2005 at 7:37pm
Ron makes good redictions, too on accident. Everytime he jokes about something ahppening or if he made a fake prediction in Divination it came true.

I figured that Voldy admired Grindelwald I was just hoping for something a little more mysterious.


Posted By: christophersnow
Date Posted: November/24/2005 at 7:18am
Who knows? Maybe there will be, but I think it would've mentioned him more if that were to be true.

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Dean Koontz= Always working!


Posted By: StormyEvenstar
Date Posted: November/24/2005 at 6:46pm
That's true. I wonder if Voldy and Grindy ever met. Or if Grindy had a bunch of followers like Voldy has.

I saw GoF again today. I just noticed tonight that when Mad Eye Moody (Crouch Jr.) is talking to Barty Crouch he does that weird snake-like tongue flick thing and that made Barty Sr. realize that it was his son. I guess. The only part of that movie that I really, really dislike is when Hagrid, Hermione, Ron, and Harry are walking though the woods (why were they walking through the woods anyway?) and Harry sees Crouch Sr.'s dead body. Then Crouch Sr. is pretty much never spoken of again. No one wonders who killed him or anything. Another thing I observed is that Rupert Grint is in dire need of a haircut.


Posted By: richardstessa
Date Posted: November/28/2005 at 3:33am
has anyone seen the new movie yet?

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Posted By: christophersnow
Date Posted: November/30/2005 at 9:51am
Unfortunately.

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"It had to be said. The world is perishing from an orgy of self-sacrificing." - Howard Roark
Dean Koontz= Always working!


Posted By: shawshank393
Date Posted: December/02/2005 at 10:22am
I thought the movie was pretty good. It was never going to live up to the book, as it is the best book out of the series in my opinion, but all in all it was done pretty good especially considering they had to leave so much out due to running time.

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Posted By: LastAirbender
Date Posted: December/04/2005 at 7:53am
I thought the movie was really good.


Posted By: richardstessa
Date Posted: December/06/2005 at 3:28am
Originally posted by christophersnow christophersnow wrote:

Unfortunately.

Why do you say that?

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Posted By: christophersnow
Date Posted: December/06/2005 at 2:15pm
Mainly I'm a person who likes to keep the vision of the book untainted by anything.

I don't mind so much some of the things they took out, just the way they went about adding things that didn't need to be added. I've made a long post on this already and will find it and post it here. Basically I thought it was not very well made, it only cared about making money. A lot of people who have never read the book have said they were confused about a lot of things. A lot of people were confused about Barty Crouch being Moody. Besides the polyjuice potion, nothing was explained. The main thing that disappointed was the third task. The first two were pretty well done. I like the resurrection scene.

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"It had to be said. The world is perishing from an orgy of self-sacrificing." - Howard Roark
Dean Koontz= Always working!


Posted By: richardstessa
Date Posted: December/07/2005 at 7:08am
i forgot, what were the tree tasks?

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Posted By: christophersnow
Date Posted: December/07/2005 at 4:07pm
The three tasks were what the fourth book was all about. The first one was where Harry had to go against a dragon. The second he had to go into the lake to save his hostage, and he ended up wanting to save them all. The third was the big maze with all the magical monsters and objects. In the movie they took out everything that was in the maze. The three tasks were part of the Triwizard Tournament that was held in the school.

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"It had to be said. The world is perishing from an orgy of self-sacrificing." - Howard Roark
Dean Koontz= Always working!


Posted By: richardstessa
Date Posted: December/09/2005 at 5:01am
i knew that he had to face a dragon and he had to go into the water. are there any death-eaters in the movie?

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Posted By: christophersnow
Date Posted: December/09/2005 at 4:13pm
Oh yeah, they wouldn't take that out, that would be ridiculous.

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"It had to be said. The world is perishing from an orgy of self-sacrificing." - Howard Roark
Dean Koontz= Always working!


Posted By: dusty151617
Date Posted: December/09/2005 at 6:27pm
I was dissapointed with the 3rd task also. It's like they just took everything out of the maze and rushed them through it.

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Posted By: richardstessa
Date Posted: December/12/2005 at 3:32am
what was supposed to be in the maze?

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Posted By: christophersnow
Date Posted: December/12/2005 at 10:34am
Sphinx, boggart, blast ended skrewts, Acromantulas, some weird magical fog stuff, and probably a few other things a can't recall right now.

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"It had to be said. The world is perishing from an orgy of self-sacrificing." - Howard Roark
Dean Koontz= Always working!


Posted By: richardstessa
Date Posted: December/13/2005 at 5:29am
so they didn't have any of that in the movie?

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Posted By: christophersnow
Date Posted: December/15/2005 at 2:28pm
Notta single thing but some killer vines which didn't make sense because that never happened in the book.

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"It had to be said. The world is perishing from an orgy of self-sacrificing." - Howard Roark
Dean Koontz= Always working!


Posted By: k_kid
Date Posted: December/28/2005 at 3:42pm
i hated the new movie. my mom like it but shes never read the book. i didnt have high expectations for it anyway. i hated moodys eye in the movie. it was how t was described in the book.


Posted By: Angelarenee
Date Posted: December/30/2005 at 4:35am
Stormy and Chris, whew, for a few pages there I thought I was the only one here in the Snape is good camp. Of course Dumbledore would not plead for his life. He has said (not an exact quote), "Death is just the next great adventure" I don't have a book here at work so I can't quote that exactly. I believe he knew of the plan all along and knew that Snape was going to have to kill him in order to comply with the unbreakable vow. And thats what Hagrid overheard them talking about in the forrest. Same stuff ya'll said, but I just had to add that I agree 100%. Anyway, Stormy I also agree that the Ravenclaw tiara is a horcrux.


Posted By: k_kid
Date Posted: January/02/2006 at 10:35am
i think that the tiara is the one that ms weasley gave to fleur.


Posted By: richardstessa
Date Posted: January/03/2006 at 3:25am
so what do you guys think the other horcrux's are?

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Posted By: k_kid
Date Posted: January/07/2006 at 7:08am
im not sure. there the tiara that ms weasley gave to fleur, voldemorts snake, and i dont know anything else. i was think maybe it could be the death eaters because when he brands them with the death mark he could split his soul. maybe. i dont know.

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Posted By: richardstessa
Date Posted: January/11/2006 at 3:28am
i might end up going and seeing it this weekend. hopefully.

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Posted By: k_kid
Date Posted: January/11/2006 at 10:14am
hope you like it. i didnt really but you might so... have fun.

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Posted By: richardstessa
Date Posted: January/19/2006 at 8:09am
i never got to see it. i won't be able to see it until it comes out on DVD which probably won't be for a while.

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