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Topic: F-1
Posted By: pattirose
Subject: F-1
Date Posted: August/01/2009 at 3:56pm
Whoever hasn't read this yet is missing out on a classic Koontz book, I can't put the darn thing down!

Every single one of the characters is interesting and all of the individual storylines are facinating.

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"Where there is cake, there is hope. And there is always cake" - Life Expectancy



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Posted By: dnurse64
Date Posted: August/02/2009 at 3:50am
I just started it!

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I'm inclined to believe in parallel worlds filled with dark bound Snow and Odd adventures.



Posted By: pattirose
Date Posted: August/02/2009 at 4:41am
YAY!!

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"Where there is cake, there is hope. And there is always cake" - Life Expectancy


Posted By: Belladonna
Date Posted: August/02/2009 at 6:05am
I'm in.

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Posted By: dnurse64
Date Posted: August/02/2009 at 6:30am
It's getting good Belladonna. I'm just starting ch. 10.

Roy Pribeaux...hold me back. Sensitive and enlightened. Nice manicure!

I've never done the group read before. How do we post to avoid spoilers? Page numbers or chapters? White highlights? I'm to lazy to check other threads. The forum is slow to load pages.

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I'm inclined to believe in parallel worlds filled with dark bound Snow and Odd adventures.



Posted By: Belladonna
Date Posted: August/02/2009 at 6:50am
Whatever you like to do to avoid spoilers dnurse. I think some do white highlight, or write SPOILERS, whatever works best for you.



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Posted By: pattirose
Date Posted: August/02/2009 at 4:57pm
Who is everyones fav character so far??

Right now it's Erika for me, I think she has some real potential. It'll be interesting to see where all this goes and how it all ties in. I'm on chapter 51 right now. That's another thing I like about this book, nice short tight chapters with no silly dialog or endless boring descriptions. (yet)

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"Where there is cake, there is hope. And there is always cake" - Life Expectancy


Posted By: dnurse64
Date Posted: August/03/2009 at 2:29am
Spoilers through chapter 29

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I don't have a favorite character yet. Carson is kick@$$ and I love brother/sister stories. Arnie having a mental handicap makes it especially endearing to me. Her partner Micheal makes me laugh! Roy is one of those absurd villians that humors the reader with his self absorption while disgusting us at the same time with wickedness. But Victor! He's so dark and terrifies me. Those scenes with him and Erika and her trying to accommodated and please him while he dominates and controls her fills me with such anxiety. I wanted to throw the soup in Victor's face. I'm pleased that you think her character will develop. I want to see her get away. I think I'll have a thing for Deucalion. I was obsessed with Phantom of the Opera so this reminds me of that. Maybe he'll end up with Erika or help save her. I can always hope. Oh, and Randall Six, he's going to be a threat to Arnie with his creepy obsession with that photo.

Micheal just made that Herman Munster joke in the autopsy lab. He's funny.

I love the New Orleans setting! I've been there with my parents and it brings back memories.

I like the brisk chapters too. Gives it a fast pace. But I love DK's descriptive style too. Whatever he wants to give us, I always enjoy it either way.

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I'm inclined to believe in parallel worlds filled with dark bound Snow and Odd adventures.



Posted By: pattirose
Date Posted: August/03/2009 at 7:40am


I don't want to say to much as as your not as far along as I am.

These aren't really spoilers so I'm not putting them in white. Anyone that ventures into a thread about a specific book should know there probably will be spoilers anyway but I try to be careful and vague.

I have to laugh at the Roy character - he is soooo totally whacked out. He could have his own book and there would still be loads of material, but I'm happy he is just one of many great characters, it makes the book better, IMO. I never heard of most of the stuff he's into, I love it when I learn while also enjoying a good fiction book.

Haven't found out much about Deucalion so far. I need to go back and reread the first couple chapters I think.
I like the banter between Carson and Michael, they make a good pair.



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"Where there is cake, there is hope. And there is always cake" - Life Expectancy


Posted By: pattirose
Date Posted: August/03/2009 at 7:48am
This read is going to be tough with this forum acting so buggy. Especially with as fast as both of us read dnurse, we will be finished before the damn page loads!!

I WISH SOMEONE WOULD FIX IT!!

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"Where there is cake, there is hope. And there is always cake" - Life Expectancy


Posted By: dnurse64
Date Posted: August/03/2009 at 12:52pm

It's so unpredictable. Sometimes I think everything is cool, pages are loading, then it all freezes up.

Spoilers through chapter 55

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Well, the eccentric bad guy can't "focus on achieving the perfect metabolism until he ceased to excrete wastes" now!

I lol at his views on "ugly" people.
Oh, and when he completed his collection and didn't have anything else to do! He was a great weird guy.

I want more of Deucalion. I wonder if his presence becomes more pronounced with each book?

And I'm ready to find out what is that thing in Erika's room that's running around on the floor.

Now on to Mr. Harker.



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I'm inclined to believe in parallel worlds filled with dark bound Snow and Odd adventures.



Posted By: pattirose
Date Posted: August/03/2009 at 2:16pm
I am in the middle of the Harker thing right now, which is just a lttle ahead of where you are now.

When they started talking about Prometheus and Atlas I knew you'd love the tie-ins. I'd heard the name Deucalion before but couldn't place it, I was thinking it was from another DK book. I need to google.

Almost done, another 100 pages left.

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"Where there is cake, there is hope. And there is always cake" - Life Expectancy


Posted By: GeneB
Date Posted: August/03/2009 at 5:44pm
yes, and I love the ending...that part doesn't pick back up until 1/3 into F-II...but its all great, lots of humor, i love it, even though it IS just one-sentence paragraphs!

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Posted By: pattirose
Date Posted: August/03/2009 at 7:00pm
WOOHOO!! That's good to hear Gene.

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"Where there is cake, there is hope. And there is always cake" - Life Expectancy


Posted By: Belladonna
Date Posted: August/05/2009 at 2:37am
I'm halfway through, it's very good. I have tried to post more but it's a pain.

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Posted By: dnurse64
Date Posted: August/05/2009 at 3:30am
I finished it yesterday but couldn't access the site to post.

I thought it was fantastic!


Spoilers through last half

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I thought the peeling away of photos on Harker's wall was pretty interesting about who all he had up and searching for any philosophy to fill the void in him.

Victor is terrible. Not a villian to laugh at much. The baby rat dinner... [xx(]. He even likes to torture his food.

Erika's demise was sad but it sure was satisfying to see how it affected Victor when she said "I forgive you for this. But I will never forgive you for having made me."

I was hoping for more character development with Carson and her brother Arnie. Maybe that will happen in F-2 or DK doesn't want to resemble BTLOTM too much. I loved that book too.

You ever feel like Randall 6 when you get hold of a shopping cart? [:P]

Anyway, I thought the whole book was fantastic. I was disoriented at first with the style because I had just finished a GRRM book that is very wordy. When I started F-1 I thought I was going in fast forward. It definitely had a fast thriller movie pace to it. I can see how it would work well with a series. Too bad USA Network wanted to change it up which made Martin Scorsese and DK lose interest and withdraw from it.

I'm ready for F-2 now and just started it.

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I'm inclined to believe in parallel worlds filled with dark bound Snow and Odd adventures.



Posted By: Belladonna
Date Posted: August/05/2009 at 6:56am
Originally posted by pattirose pattirose wrote:

Who is everyones fav character so far??

Right now it's Erika for me, I think she has some real potential. It'll be interesting to see where all this goes and how it all ties in. I'm on chapter 51 right now. That's another thing I like about this book, nice short tight chapters with no silly dialog or endless boring descriptions. (yet)


I feel bad for her right now, she can't seem to live up to Victor's expectations. She does have potential though.

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Posted By: Belladonna
Date Posted: August/05/2009 at 7:01am
Originally posted by dnurse64 dnurse64 wrote:

Spoilers through chapter 29

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I don't have a favorite character yet. Carson is kick@$$ and I love brother/sister stories. Arnie having a mental handicap makes it especially endearing to me. Her partner Micheal makes me laugh! Roy is one of those absurd villians that humors the reader with his self absorption while disgusting us at the same time with wickedness. But Victor! He's so dark and terrifies me. Those scenes with him and Erika and her trying to accommodated and please him while he dominates and controls her fills me with such anxiety. I wanted to throw the soup in Victor's face. I'm pleased that you think her character will develop. I want to see her get away. I think I'll have a thing for Deucalion. I was obsessed with Phantom of the Opera so this reminds me of that. Maybe he'll end up with Erika or help save her. I can always hope. Oh, and Randall Six, he's going to be a threat to Arnie with his creepy obsession with that photo.

Micheal just made that Herman Munster joke in the autopsy lab. He's funny.

I love the New Orleans setting! I've been there with my parents and it brings back memories.

I like the brisk chapters too. Gives it a fast pace. But I love DK's descriptive style too. Whatever he wants to give us, I always enjoy it either way.


Michael is funny with some of his remarks, you and Patti will have to let me know him and Carson make it into the second book.
I'm wondering since you and Patti have finished if Arnie's castle has meaning....wait don't tell me LOL.

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Posted By: pattirose
Date Posted: August/05/2009 at 7:22am
Originally posted by Belladonna Belladonna wrote:

I'm halfway through, it's very good. I have tried to post more but it's a pain.


I've been having trouble getting on also.

I finished it and was disappointed in the latter part of the book. I thought it had alot of potential and was going to be magnificent but it wasn't for me.

major spoilers in white
It reminded me of a GRRM book the way major interesting characters were killed, which is fine because it's unpredictable but they weren't replaced with any interesting new ones. So we were left with Carson and Michael and Victor. The Deucalion and Arnie characters haven't been built up yet so there really isn't much new stuff yet...

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"Where there is cake, there is hope. And there is always cake" - Life Expectancy


Posted By: pattirose
Date Posted: August/05/2009 at 8:23am
Originally posted by dnurse64 dnurse64 wrote:

I finished it yesterday but couldn't access the site to post.

I thought it was fantastic!


Spoilers through last half

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I thought the peeling away of photos on Harker's wall was pretty interesting about who all he had up and searching for any philosophy to fill the void in him.

Victor is terrible. Not a villian to laugh at much. The baby rat dinner... . He even likes to torture his food.

Erika's demise was sad but it sure was satisfying to see how it affected Victor when she said "I forgive you for this. But I will never forgive you for having made me."

I was hoping for more character development with Carson and her brother Arnie. Maybe that will happen in F-2 or DK doesn't want to resemble BTLOTM too much. I loved that book too.

You ever feel like Randall 6 when you get hold of a shopping cart?

Anyway, I thought the whole book was fantastic. I was disoriented at first with the style because I had just finished a GRRM book that is very wordy. When I started F-1 I thought I was going in fast forward. It definitely had a fast thriller movie pace to it. I can see how it would work well with a series. Too bad USA Network wanted to change it up which made Martin Scorsese and DK lose interest and withdraw from it.

I'm ready for F-2 now and just started it.


The baby rat dinner was just so gross and unexpected, I thought it was going to be live monkey brains or something - EEWWW!


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"Where there is cake, there is hope. And there is always cake" - Life Expectancy


Posted By: Belladonna
Date Posted: August/05/2009 at 8:42am
Originally posted by pattirose pattirose wrote:

Originally posted by Belladonna Belladonna wrote:

I'm halfway through, it's very good. I have tried to post more but it's a pain.


I've been having trouble getting on also.

I finished it and was disappointed in the latter part of the book. I thought it had alot of potential and was going to be magnificent but it wasn't for me.

major spoilers in white
It reminded me of a GRRM book the way major interesting characters were killed, which is fine because it's unpredictable but they weren't replaced with any interesting new ones. So we were left with Carson and Michael and Victor. The Deucalion and Arnie characters haven't been built up yet so there really isn't much new stuff yet...


Ah hah! Well I'm not there yet but I can see it going that way. Guess that means its a good thing to read the second right after.

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Posted By: breezit
Date Posted: August/05/2009 at 8:48am
F-1 was absolutely fantastic, it's one of my favorite Koontz novels of recent years.

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"In the real world as in dreams, nothing is quite what it seems. Dean Koontz



Posted By: pattirose
Date Posted: August/05/2009 at 9:27am
Originally posted by breezit breezit wrote:

F-1 was absolutely fantastic, it's one of my favorite Koontz novels of recent years.


Mine too!

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"Where there is cake, there is hope. And there is always cake" - Life Expectancy


Posted By: dnurse64
Date Posted: August/06/2009 at 3:35am
Where are you at Belladonna?

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I'm inclined to believe in parallel worlds filled with dark bound Snow and Odd adventures.



Posted By: Belladonna
Date Posted: August/16/2009 at 8:25am
Originally posted by dnurse64 dnurse64 wrote:

Where are you at Belladonna?


I'm almost finished, maybe today I'll be able to. I've been very busy remodeling my kitchen/dining room.
Anyway, I do like the book but for me it didn't get really good til I learned that Jonathan Harker was of the New Race and he killed Roy...wow. Sorry it took me so long to post, it hard to get in here sometimes. Let you know more tonight.

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Posted By: Belladonna
Date Posted: August/16/2009 at 2:55pm
Originally posted by pattirose pattirose wrote:

Originally posted by Belladonna Belladonna wrote:

I'm halfway through, it's very good. I have tried to post more but it's a pain.


I've been having trouble getting on also.

I finished it and was disappointed in the latter part of the book. I thought it had alot of potential and was going to be magnificent but it wasn't for me.

major spoilers in white
It reminded me of a GRRM book the way major interesting characters were killed, which is fine because it's unpredictable but they weren't replaced with any interesting new ones. So we were left with Carson and Michael and Victor. The Deucalion and Arnie characters haven't been built up yet so there really isn't much new stuff yet...


I liked the last half of the story more, I liked it all but the end really had me on edge. Michael is my favorite character with his funny remarks.

When Frye says "Is that some kind of sarcasm"? And Michael says "I've got to admit it is." I laughed out loud.

I'm anxious to see if they find the thing that came out of Harker and what happens with Randal 6.

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Posted By: dnurse64
Date Posted: August/17/2009 at 4:16am
Michael was the one that made me laugh all the time. The books keep getting better and better. I can't wait until you find out more about the thing that came out of Harker. That was one of the most interesting part of the series for me!

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I'm inclined to believe in parallel worlds filled with dark bound Snow and Odd adventures.




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